{"id":111008,"date":"2017-11-30T10:48:00","date_gmt":"2017-11-30T10:48:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2023-01-08T11:06:00","modified_gmt":"2023-01-08T11:06:00","slug":"more-on-uschina-naval-dialog-and-j-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/2017\/11\/30\/more-on-uschina-naval-dialog-and-j-20\/","title":{"rendered":"More on US\/China naval dialog and J-20 project"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><h3 class=\"post-title entry-title\" itemprop=\"name\"><\/h3>\n<div class=\"post-header\"> <\/div>\n<p>In my last post, I talked about China&#8217;s participation in the Rim PAC  2014 exercise.  As this was happening, Admiral Greenert, Chief of US  naval operation, made a visit to China and was the first US (possibly  first foreign) service member to visit CV-16 Dalian and speak to its  crew member.  You can see the DOD <a href=\"http:\/\/www.defense.gov\/news\/newsarticle.aspx?id=122760\">article here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Admiral Greenert had what seems to be a good overview and very frank  conversations with his Chinese counterpart Admiral Wu about the near  future of Chinese naval aviation program.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a surprise  to Chinese naval followers that they are building another STOBAR  carriers similar to CV-16 before moving on to a more modern design.  And  it&#8217;s certainly not a surprise that he saw all of the Russian equipments  ripped out and replaced with brand new Chinese ones, because that&#8217;s  what we&#8217;ve seen from all of the TV reports.  Even so, I really do  encouraged at the increased level of communication and discussion  between the two sides even though they have feel like they are dealing  with possible adversaries.  That&#8217;s the kind of discussions that will  hopefully eliminate or at least reduce miscommunications in the future.   Greenert also visit a 039B (Improved Yuan) class submarine and some  other ships in the North Sea Fleet around where CV-16 is based.  The  039B that he boarded was one of the most recently commissioned PLAN  submarine, so it certainly seems like Chinese navy is not holding back.   From that, I get 2 thoughts:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>China is certainly reciprocating US efforts for greater transparency.  It is also showing greater transparency in general. <\/li>\n<li>Biggest factor to the greater transparency and willingness to show  what they have could be their improved hardware and professionalism.  A  large part of China&#8217;s secrecy is due to not wanting to be embarrassed  with less advanced ships and non-professional crew members. <\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>There has also been more news coming out on the J-20 project.  The new  prototype No. 2012 has made its maiden flight.  From all the pictures  I&#8217;ve seen so far, it seems to have minimal changes from Prototype No.  2011.  The word is No. 2013 and 2014 will also be coming out sometime  this year for test flights.  So, I think they will now start  comprehensive flight testing programs.  On SDF, one of my fellow PLA  watcher compared the first 2 flying J-20 prototypes (no. 2001 and 2002)  to YF-22 while comparing this new batch of prototypes to the F-22 EMD  program.  It took over 5 years from the first flight of F-22 EMD  prototype to the first production F-22 being delivered to Nellis AFB.  I  would say it will probably take similar amount of type for the first  production batch of J-20s to be delivered (so around second half of  2019).  Even though the Russians have been saying production version of  PAK-FA will be delivered in 2016, I think there is a good chance that  won&#8217;t happen and we will see the 2 aircraft enter service at around the  same time.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my last post, I talked about China&#8217;s participation in the Rim PAC 2014 exercise. As this was happening, Admiral Greenert, Chief of US naval operation, made a visit to China and was the first US (possibly first foreign) service member to visit CV-16 Dalian and speak to its crew member. 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