{"id":110924,"date":"2017-11-30T12:05:00","date_gmt":"2017-11-30T12:05:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2023-01-08T11:05:19","modified_gmt":"2023-01-08T11:05:19","slug":"the-rand-study-on-plaaf-vs-usaf-in-2020","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/2017\/11\/30\/the-rand-study-on-plaaf-vs-usaf-in-2020\/","title":{"rendered":"The RAND study on PLAAF vs USAF in 2020"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><h3 class=\"post-title entry-title\" itemprop=\"name\"><\/h3>\n<div class=\"post-header\"> <\/div>\n<p>I recently read the RAND analysis on possible encounters between China and Taiwan\/USA in 2020.  You can find it <a href=\"http:\/\/www.defenseindustrydaily.com\/files\/2008_RAND_Pacific_View_Air_Combat_Briefing.pdf\">here<\/a>.  I have to say that after some initial prejudice toward their analysis, I  became fairly impressed by the different scenarios they talked about.  I  think one must look at this as a good starting point rather than a  realistic study.  I&#8217;ve always found Taiwan scenario to be too  complicated to be discussed on a military forum, so I try not to get  into such debate.  So the following is an attempt to ask more questions,  trying to think of more possibilities rather than answering what is and  is not going to be successful.<\/p>\n<p>I think an interesting part that  they went over are the number of air bases available to both side in  this scenario.  The important part is pointing out that Kadena is  basically the only USAF base close enough to Taiwan strait and Anderson  is the only other base close to there.  It also showed the possible and  the number of other possible air bases available to America in the area  from Japan and South Korea + give some thoughts into areas that would be  considered safe for the US carrier and would that would mean to this  scenario.  So, I think the important questions they raised include the  following:<\/p>\n<p>1. Can China take Kadena out of the picture with  missile strike and if so how long can they keep it out of commission?   In order to answer this question, I would have to know the kind of air  defense available at the beginning of the conflict (assuming that USN  cannot get there in time to support with its Aegis umbrella).  If it is  taken out, how fast can it be repaired?  If it&#8217;s repaired, how fast can  it be re-supplied?  If does have USN protection after being  repaired\/re-supplied, will it be taken out again by further strikes of  ballistic missile, KD-88s and PGMs?  So basically, will USAF be able  keep this air base open and maintain adequate sortie rate?  Even if this  can be accomplished, will USAF risk placing any advanced units there?<\/p>\n<p>2.  In any Taiwan\/China scenario, with South Korea and\/or Japan get  involved?  I think South Korea would unlikely be involved, but will  Japan help out Taiwan by sending its navy?  Or will it let USAF use its  air bases?  I certainly the latter case is likely, because Japan has  been very vocal about its commitment to USA alliance and its problems  with China.  There will obviously be some logistical issues of USAF  using Japanese bases, so the question would be how long it would take  for these bases to be useful?  And if Japan allows its bases to be used  by USA, will China also be targeting those bases?  And if China does  target those bases, we are looking at a much larger conflict.<\/p>\n<p>3.  The Andersen air base is the only other air base that&#8217;s within  operational range of Taiwan strait.  Will this air base remain unscathed  in possible conflicts.  One thing that has been brought up is that we  will likely see B-2 going into Chinese territory to attack Chinese air  bases and SAM sites.  On the flip side, what about Chinese bombers  carrying LACMs against Andersen air base?  It is certainly within the  range of a H-6K carrying 6 long range LACMs.  The report states that 34  missiles would in effect cripple Kadena air base?  How many tomahawk  LACMs would put Andersen out of commission?  And even if Andersen is not  taken out, can they significantly reduce the number of sorties launched  from there?  Similar to point 1, would the risk of getting hit in the  hangar prevent USAF from placing a valued asset like F-22 there?<\/p>\n<p>4.  What about air bases in China?  It&#8217;s certainly inconceivable that USAF  would leave these air bases and SAMs alone in any kind of war scenario.   I could imagine that B-2s would be sent in to hit bases that are close  to Taiwan and also field elite units.  And when USN carrier groups get  in there, you can guarantee that many Tomahawk missiles will be sent to  Chinese SAMs, GCI sites, long range radar stations and air bases to  reduce PLAAF&#8217;s readiness and sorties.  Even if we believe in the  invincibility of B-2 and conjecture it can come, drop off the bombs and  leave unscathed, how many of its bombs\/missiles and Tomahawks from USN  ships will not be intercepted?  If the air bases get damaged, oil depots  get hit, how long will it take for these bases to be fixed and  re-supplied?  And if China&#8217;s inland bases are hit, what kind of  retaliation can be expected?  One would imagine all US military bases in  surrounding regions could possibly be targeted.  The most vulnerable  one would be in Afghanistan due to the number of troops there and  relatively lack of air defense against terrain hugging cruise missiles.   Consider that Chinese missiles can Afghanistan flying through Kashmir  and Pakistan, I don&#8217;t think it would get any serious objections to such  an attack  And if we consider Iraq, it is another possible hit location,  although the Chinese missiles might not have the range to go that far.<\/p>\n<p>5.  What about the general logistics for PLA?  We can assume that USAF and  USN would not have any problem with all of its experiences recently.   Can PLA keep all of its bases supplied?  More importantly, can it ensure  that its fighters will get jet fuel needed in an extended conflict?   With USN guaranteed of choking China&#8217;s supply lines (either by itself or  through its allies), how long can China keep on going?  It has 30 days  of strategic supply right now.  Even if we assume increased domestic  production + increased supply from Russia and Iran in the event of a  war, how long can it really last?  It&#8217;s no wonder that Chinese plans all  involve quick victory over Taiwan.<\/p>\n<p>The next question is what  kind of forces will be available on both side.  Seeing how there will be  a maximum of 183 F-22s overall, it will hard to see USAF being able to  commit more than 4 squadrons (96 aircrafts) in the theatre (Andersen and  Kadena air bases).  And let&#8217;s use the number 72 + 90 = 162 F-35A from  Kadena and Japan air bases (I think we can rule out F-35A from Andersen  due to its range).  So, I&#8217;m guessing we will see a maximum of 96 F-22s  and 160 F-35s at the disposal of USAF.  If we take Kadena totally out of  the picture, we might be looking at 48 F-22s and 72 F-35As.  Remember,  these are just hypothetical number I&#8217;m throwing out, without actually  knowing the full capacity of the two air bases and also the number of  tankers supporting them.  If we use the commonly accepted figure of 2  USN Carrier groups in action and the air wing as described by Galrahn <a href=\"http:\/\/informationdissemination.blogspot.com\/2008\/07\/navy-needs-more-carrier-aircraft.html\">here<\/a>:<br \/>24 super hornets, 24 hornets, 4 EA-6B, 4 E-2C, 6 SH-60.<br \/>Replacing them with planes we are likely to see in 2020, we will likely see a total of:<br \/>48 JSF, 48 super hornets, 8 E-2D, 8-12 EA-18G? and 12 SH-60<\/p>\n<p>USAF\/USN  will also be supported by possibly 200 F-16s + a good number of M2Ks  and IDF from ROCAF.  The problem with Taiwan is the same with Kadena air  base and Chinese air bases.  Taiwan will likely see a steady  bombardment from DF-11\/15s, LACMs, WS-2, ASM and PGMs in the initial  part of the conflict.  The aim is obviously to take out the SAM sites,  air bases and radar\/communication sites.  At this point, it&#8217;s hard to  say how this would affect ROCAF&#8217;s sortie rate.  I don&#8217;t really have any  data on the strategic jet fuel supply for Taiwan, the pace of repair  work, the ability to keep foreign planes flying during high intensity  situations or alternative lift-off options (flying off highways?).  So,  it&#8217;s really hard to say how much ROCAF will be able to help US in the  air after the first couple of days.<\/p>\n<p>As for PLA, it&#8217;s just as  cloudy what kind of forces it will have at that time.  One thing I can  say is that RAND&#8217;s vision of PLA fighters is really off base.  I cannot  imagine under the current scenario that Chinese flankers will be like  su-35, but rather something domestic (as I have talked about in the  past).  And even aside from that, one would imagine that in 2020, PLAAF  will be a force with mainly J-10 of different variants, about 300 JH-7  series fighters, about 300-400 flankers of different variants and a  small number of 5th generation fighters.  And one can imagine that  plenty of buffer planes in the mode of JF-17 and J-8F in action also.  We&#8217;ve seen from RAND example of all the air bases around Taiwan.  We  certainly can&#8217;t expect all of their fighters to be used in this theatre.   We also can expect a portion of the air bases to be out of commission  from US missile strikes.  Knowing that, it&#8217;s also hard to know which air  bases are equipped to handle the more &#8220;advanced&#8221; fighters.  For  example, would an air base usually accommodating JF-17 be able to handle  J-10B fighters operating from there?  How well would they handle small  non-military air strips?  If their air base is destroyed or too far  away, would they be able to use remote civilian air strips?  And for the  elite units that are stationed further away from Taiwan, they would  need tankers to get there.  At the moment, China only has a limited  number of H-6U and not much experience with them.  In 12 years, how much  would the Chinese refueling capability increase and how would that  affect the number of sorties performed by these units?  There are far  too many unknowns to figure out the amount of sorties generated by PLAAF  over Taiwan.  And I don&#8217;t expect each sortie to have the same  airplanes.  That will obviously change with different missions.<\/p>\n<p>Also,  the aerial warfare is only part of the overall battle.  With the  numerical advantage of ROC army over the invading PLA, one could argue  that PLA would need absolute air dominance over all of its missions.   And it would need to maintain air supremacy to accomplish any of its  missions.  In that case, all USAF would need is to prevent that to keep  PLA from accomplishing its goals.  However, that&#8217;s outside of the scope  of this discussion and I am really not knowledgeable enough to go there.   So, this piece is just to raise some interesting questions on the RAND  analysis.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently read the RAND analysis on possible encounters between China and Taiwan\/USA in 2020. You can find it here. I have to say that after some initial prejudice toward their analysis, I became fairly impressed by the different scenarios they talked about. I think one must look at this as a good starting point [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/110924"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=110924"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/110924\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=110924"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=110924"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=110924"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}