{"id":110804,"date":"2017-11-30T13:40:00","date_gmt":"2017-11-30T13:40:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2023-01-08T11:04:12","modified_gmt":"2023-01-08T11:04:12","slug":"dogfighting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/2017\/11\/30\/dogfighting\/","title":{"rendered":"Dogfighting"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><h3 class=\"post-title entry-title\" itemprop=\"name\"><\/h3>\n<div class=\"post-header\"> <\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-9lBtmDMeBL8\/VZWlkd6kHXI\/AAAAAAAABAU\/Nw3WYkqUaS8\/s1600\/LightningIIandFalcon.jpg\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" border=\"0\" height=\"182\" src=\"http:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/lightningiiandfalcon.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-110805\" width=\"320\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p><i>An F-35 and F-16.&nbsp; A recently-published summary of a mock dogfight  between the two jets has raised questions about the F-35&#8217;s ability to  survive in a within-visual-range battle, but it fails to acknowledge the  Lightning II&#8217;s full range of capabilities. <\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">There&#8217;s  been quite a dust-up this week in the defense media&#8211;and companion  social media sites&#8211;over claims the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) has poor  maneuverability and may not survive a &#8220;close-in&#8221; dogfight against more  nimble foes. <\/span><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">War  is Boring got the ball rolling, with excerpts from a five-page summary  from an F-35 test pilot, who (in very blunt terms) described losing  engagements against an F-16, during a &#8220;within-visual-range&#8221; employment  test held in January of this year:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"84b7\" name=\"84b7\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">&#8220;The fateful test took place on  Jan. 14, 2015, apparently within the Sea Test Range over the Pacific  Ocean near Edwards Air Force Base in California. The single-seat F-35A  with the designation \u201cAF-02\u201d\u200a\u2014\u200aone of the older JSFs in the Air  Force\u200a\u2014\u200atook off alongside a two-seat F-16D Block 40, one of the types  of planes the F-35 is supposed to replace.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"84b7\" name=\"84b7\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"ed00\" name=\"ed00\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">The  two jets would be playing the roles of opposing fighters in a pretend  air battle, which the Air Force organized specifically to test out the  F-35\u2019s prowess as a close-range dogfighter in an air-to-air tangle  involving high \u201cangles of attack,\u201d or AoA, and \u201caggressive stick\/pedal  inputs.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"ed00\" name=\"ed00\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"ed00\" name=\"ed00\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">[snip]<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"ed00\" name=\"ed00\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"ed00\" name=\"ed00\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">\u201cThe evaluation focused on the overall effectiveness of the aircraft in  performing various specified maneuvers in a dynamic environment,\u201d the  F-35 tester wrote. \u201cThis consisted of traditional Basic Fighter  Maneuvers in offensive, defensive and neutral setups at altitudes  ranging from 10,000 to 30,000 feet.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"ed00\" name=\"ed00\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"704f\" name=\"704f\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">The F-35 was flying \u201cclean,\u201d  with no weapons in its bomb bay or under its wings and fuselage. The  F-16, by contrast, was hauling two bulky underwing drop tanks, putting  the older jet at an aerodynamic disadvantage.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"704f\" name=\"704f\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p is-withNotes\" id=\"3bfa\" name=\"3bfa\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">But  the JSF\u2019s advantage didn\u2019t actually help in the end. The stealth  fighter proved too sluggish to reliably defeat the F-16, even with the  F-16 lugging extra fuel tanks. \u201cEven with the limited F-16 target  configuration, the F-35A remained at a distinct energy disadvantage for  every engagement,\u201d the pilot reported.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p is-withNotes\" id=\"3bfa\" name=\"3bfa\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote\" id=\"177d\" name=\"177d\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">\u201cInsufficient  pitch rate.\u201d \u201cEnergy deficit to the bandit would increase over time.\u201d  \u201cThe flying qualities in the blended region (20\u201326 degrees AoA) were not  intuitive or favorable.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote\" id=\"177d\" name=\"177d\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"13ec\" name=\"13ec\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">The  F-35 jockey tried to target the F-16 with the stealth jet\u2019s  25-millimeter cannon, but the smaller F-16 easily dodged. \u201cInstead of  catching the bandit off-guard by rapidly pull aft to achieve lead, the  nose rate was slow, allowing him to easily time his jink prior to a gun  solution,\u201d the JSF pilot complained.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"13ec\" name=\"13ec\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">And  when the pilot of the F-16 turned the tables on the F-35, maneuvering  to put the stealth plane in his own gunsight, the JSF jockey found he  couldn\u2019t maneuver out of the way, owing to a \u201clack of nose rate.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Reading  that report, you&#8217;d logically conclude that the F-35 is, in fact, a $1  trillion turkey; unable to fight its way out of a turning engagement, a  fundamental of air combat since World War I pilots began taking potshots  at each other with pistols from their cockpits. &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">But  the account is also highly misleading&#8211;another example of JSF critics  cherry-picking information to buttress their case.&nbsp; The F-35 Joint  System Program Office (JSPO) responded by noting the blog post failed to  mention that the jet used in the engagement was an &#8220;early test model,  not equipped with production-representative mission systems software, stealth coatings, or sensors &#8220;that allow the F-35 to see its enemy long before it knows the F-35 is in the area.&#8221; The jet was also  lacked the missiles and software needed to allow the pilot to target an enemy with his helmet-mounted system.&nbsp; So, the F-35 was at a  disadvantage as well.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">But  the real issue here is the cherry-picking of information to place the  JSF in the worst possible light. Fact is, every fighter has strengths  and weaknesses.&nbsp; In World War II, for example, Claire Chennault and his  Flying Tigers quickly discovered their P-40 Warhawks were no match for  the Japanese Zero in a turning fight.&nbsp; They amassed an impressive kill  ratio by adopting tactics that played to the P-40&#8217;s speed, firepower and  rugged construction.&nbsp; Whenever possible, the Flying Tigers wanted to  start the engagement with an altitude advantage over their Japanese  opponents, diving through the enemy formation (and picking off as many  as possible), then disengaging. &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Elsewhere in the Pacific, Navy pilots flying the Grumman F4F Wildcat employed the famous &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Thach_Weave\">Thach Weave<\/a>&#8221;  to negate the Zero&#8217;s advantage in maneuverability.&nbsp; During the Vietnam  War, F-4 Phantom crews were told to avoid turning dogfights against the  smaller more agile MiG-17s and MiG-21s.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">With  the introduction of fourth-generation fighters (including the F-15 and  F-16) the design &#8220;trade-offs&#8221; of earlier aircraft appeared to be a thing  of the past.&nbsp; Both the Eagle and the Viper had excellent speed,  maneuverability and visibility, coupled with excellent radars and  weaponry.&nbsp; At last, it seemed possible to build fighters that excelled  in all phases of aerial combat.&nbsp; Both General Dynamics (which developed  the F-16) and McDonnell-Douglas (which designed the Navy&#8217;s F\/A-18)  emphasized the ability of their aircraft to go from ground attack to  dogfighting with literally the flick of a switch. &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">But  even world-beating designs like the F-15, F-16 and the Hornet had their  limitations.&nbsp; The original F-15 was designed strictly for air combat;  the jet never gained an air-to-ground capability until the two-seat  &#8220;Strike Eagle&#8221; was introduced in the 1980s.&nbsp; Newer models of the F\/A-18  became heavier (as the Hornet took on more roles performed by jets like  the F-14 and EA-6B Prowler), decreasing its range and agility.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">The  F-16 experienced a similar evolution, as newer &#8220;blocks&#8221; gained more  capabilities (and weight), making them slightly less nimble that earlier  variants.&nbsp; It is also worth noting that early Viper models had a  limited air-to-air capability; the original APG-66 radar on A and B  models did not support radar guided missiles.&nbsp; Later, a few F-16s  assigned to the air defense mission in the Air National Guard were  modified to carry and employ the AIM-7 Sparrow.&nbsp; But most F-16s did not  gain a beyond-visual-range missile capability until the AIM-120 AMRAAM  entered service in the early 1990s&#8211;almost 15 years after the Viper  joined the Air Force inventory. &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">What  does this prove?&nbsp; There are no perfect aircraft, and even the latest  designs involve some degree of compromise, which impacts aerial  performance.&nbsp; Consequently, it&#8217;s important to look at a fighter&#8217;s full  range of capabilities before claiming it cannot survive in aerial  combat.&nbsp; By that standard, the Flying Tigers should have never left the  ground, and Jimmy Thach and his fellow Wildcat pilots had no business  taking on the legendary A6M Zero.&nbsp; Instead, they learned to improvise  and modify tactics to put themselves in the best possible position,  recognizing the strengths and weaknesses of their aircraft, and those  flown by their adversaries.&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">The  F-35 is already undergoing that evolution.&nbsp; And that&#8217;s not to say the  Joint Strike Fighter is being written off as an expensive, latter-day  equivalent of the Wildcat or the P-40.&nbsp; Indeed, any fair assessment of a  fourth or fifth-generation jet must consider its full range of  capabilities.&nbsp; In some respects, the January test put the F-35 in an  environment that most Lightning II drivers don&#8217;t want to be in.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Like  the F-22, the JSF is most effective in the beyond visual range (BVR)  environment, using its stealth, networked sensors and long-range  missiles to kill the bad guys before it transitions to a visual range  fight.&nbsp; As the F-35 JSPO noted, there have been numerous training  missions that pitted a four-ship of JSFs against a similar number of  F-15s or F-16s.&nbsp; The F-35s have won all of those engagements, utilizing  their full range of capabilities. &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">But  don&#8217;t take my word for it.&nbsp; Flying against a full-up, fifth generation  stealth fighter is tough work, and you&#8217;re going to lose.&nbsp; As a USAF  aggressor pilot told <i>The Atlantic <\/i>a few years back, &#8220;I saw an  F-22 the other day, it was way above me, rocking its wings, just after  he called me dead.&#8221;&nbsp; The aggressor pilot, trained to mimic the tactics  of potential adversaries, never saw or detected the Raptor until after  it killed him in the mock engagement.&nbsp; I heard similar comments from  F-15 pilots at Langley AFB, VA, which operated Eagle and Raptors until  2010.&nbsp; They expressed absolute frustration at flying against the F-22,  and said the high point of any joint sortie was when the Raptors headed  for home. &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"graf--p\" id=\"4bef\" name=\"4bef\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">To  be fair, no jet is completely invisible, and a number of countries are  working on improved sensors to detect stealth aircraft.&nbsp; And, both  Moscow and Beijing are working on their own very low observable  aircraft, so we&#8217;ll have company in the stealth arena in the years  ahead.&nbsp; But we still enjoy an advantage in technology and tactics, which  allows us to employ fifth-generation fighters to the full extent of  their capabilities.&nbsp; &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">If  we don&#8217;t preserve that edge, we will lose the aerial dominance that is  essential for our military strategy.&nbsp; Not all of our future battles will  be fought against terrorists with no air arm and minimal air defense  capabilities.&nbsp; That reality dictates more advanced capabilities for our  air forces and resisting the temptation to scrap the F-35 and soldier on  with upgraded F-15s, F-16s and F\/A-18s.&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An F-35 and F-16.&nbsp; A recently-published summary of a mock dogfight between the two jets has raised questions about the F-35&#8217;s ability to survive in a within-visual-range battle, but it fails to acknowledge the Lightning II&#8217;s full range of capabilities. 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