{"id":110028,"date":"2017-12-04T13:22:00","date_gmt":"2017-12-04T13:22:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2023-01-08T10:57:14","modified_gmt":"2023-01-08T10:57:14","slug":"remembering-douglas-bader-and-admiral","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cvnextjob.com\/index.php\/2017\/12\/04\/remembering-douglas-bader-and-admiral\/","title":{"rendered":"Remembering Douglas Bader and Admiral Stockdale"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><h3 class=\"post-title entry-title\" itemprop=\"name\"><\/h3>\n<div class=\"post-header\"> <\/div>\n<p>Those recently-released British sailors and Royal Marines will speak  publicly this morning about their ordeal in Iran. The 15 military  members flew back to Britain yesterday, after being freed by their  Iranian captors.<\/p>\n<p>Hopefully, the expected statements from the  former detainees will shed additional light on their captivity, and  their conduct while in Iranian hands. As we noted yesterday, it is  premature to judge the actions of the British troops, because we don&#8217;t  know what threats or coercive techniques might have been used in  extracting those &#8220;apologies.&#8221; Various media reports also indicate that  none of the British personnel&#8211;mostly junior enlisted members&#8211;had any  prior training in survival, evasion, resistance and escape (SERE)  techniques. That meant that the captured sailors and marines were at a  distinct disadvantage in dealing with Iranian interrogators and  propoganda specialists.<\/p>\n<p>Still, the televised images of British  personnel &#8220;apologizing&#8221; for entering Iranian territorial waters and  their chatty, pre-departure photo-op with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  are raising questions in the U.K. Christopher Dandeker, a professor of  military sociology at University College London, told <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2007\/04\/05\/world\/middleeast\/05cnd-iran.html?ex=1333425600&amp;en=ec25d74238a0f893&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss\"><em>The New York Times<\/em> <\/a>that the captives\u2019 behavior raised worrying issues, but cautioned against a rush to judgment:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 85%;\">\u201cI  know many military people are concerned about the overly loquacious and  positive statements made by the service personnel,\u201d he said in an  e-mail message. \u201cBut as yet we don\u2019t know what kinds of coercion were  present before the \u2018hostages\u2019 made their TV statements.&#8221;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 85%;\"><\/span><br \/>Steven Glover, a columnist for the Daily Mail, put it more bluntly:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 85%;\">\u201cI  do not blame the hostages for their apparent willingness to confess and  apologize,\u201d Mr. Glover wrote. \u201cBut we had better be honest with  ourselves. In no previous era \u2014 not during World War II or Korea or Suez  or the Falklands \u2014 would British servicemen have behaved in such a  manner.\u201d <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 85%;\"><\/span><br \/>Apparently, times have changed. I wonder if those young British service members are familar with the story of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_Bader\">Douglas Bader, a legendary Spitfire pilot during World War II<\/a>.  Bader lost both of his legs in a flying accident during the 1930s, but  returned to the cockpit with a pair of artificial limbs. During the war,  Bader became an ace during the Battle of Britain, but was shot down  during a fighter sweep over France in August 1941, and captured. Bader  lost one of his prosthetic legs when he bailed out of his Spitfire, but  the Germans allowed the RAF to air drop a replacement leg for him.<\/p>\n<p>It  was a decision the Luftwaffee quickly came to regret. With a complete  set of artifical limbs, Bader spent most of this time trying to escape,  and he staged a number of attempts over the years that followed. At one  point, the Germans became so exasperated that they threatened to  confiscate Bader&#8217;s protheses, and finally imprisoned him in the  &#8220;escape-proof&#8221; Colditz Castle, where he remained until liberation by  U.S. forces in 1945. When can only imagine what Group Captain Bader  might have said&#8211;or done&#8211;if offered a photo-op with Goering or Hitler.<\/p>\n<p>Similarly,  I wonder how many Americans know why Admiral Jim Stockdale won the  Congressional Medal of Honor for his conduct as a POW in North Vietnam?  Regrettably, in this sound-bite age, Stockdale is best remembered as  Ross Perot&#8217;s running mate in the 1992 campaign, and for his famous  quip&#8211;&#8220;Who am I and why am I here&#8221;&#8211;during that year&#8217;s vice-presidential  debate.<\/p>\n<p>But that is not the legacy of Admiral Stockdale.  His heroism in the Hanoi Hilton is the stuff of legend&#8211;and rightfully so. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.medalofhonor.com\/JamesStockdale.htm\">From his Medal of Honor citation:<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 85%;\">Recognized  by his captors as the leader in the Prisoners&#8217; of War resistance to  interrogation and in their refusal to participate in propaganda  exploitation, Rear Adm. Stockdale was singled out for interrogation and  attendant torture after he was detected in a covert communications  attempt. Sensing the start of another purge, and aware that his earlier  efforts at self-disfiguration to dissuade his captors from exploiting  him for propaganda purposes had resulted in cruel and agonizing  punishment, Rear Adm. Stockdale resolved to make himself a symbol of  resistance regardless of personal sacrifice. He deliberately inflicted a  near-mortal wound to his person in order to convince his captors of his  willingness to give up his life rather than capitulate. He was  subsequently discovered and revived by the North Vietnamese who,  convinced of his indomitable spirit, abated in their employment of  excessive harassment and torture toward all of the Prisoners of War. By  his heroic action, at great peril to himself, he earned the everlasting  gratitude of his fellow prisoners and of his country. Rear Adm.  Stockdale&#8217;s valiant leadership and extraordinary courage in a hostile  environment sustain and enhance the finest traditions of the U.S. Naval  Service.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 85%;\"><\/span><br \/>The citation  doesn&#8217;t go into details, but Admiral Stockdale&#8217;s &#8220;personal sacrifice&#8221;  included cutting his own scalp and beating his face with a stool so that  he couldn&#8217;t be used in enemy propaganda films. And, when he learned  that other POWs were being tortured to death, Stockdale slit his own  wrists, demonstrating to his captors that he preferred death to  submission. Admiral Stockdale&#8217;s selfless acts are credited with  curtailing North Vietnam&#8217;s brutal treatment of American prisoners, and  he became a symbol of resistance during years of captivity.<\/p>\n<p>Cut  from the same cloth as Doug Bader, it is inconceivable that Jim  Stockdale would ever agree to a grip-and-grin with Ho Chi Minh, or  accept a &#8220;goodie&#8221; bag as he left North Vietnam.<\/p>\n<p>Quite a contrast to what we saw in Tehran.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Those recently-released British sailors and Royal Marines will speak publicly this morning about their ordeal in Iran. The 15 military members flew back to Britain yesterday, after being freed by their Iranian captors. Hopefully, the expected statements from the former detainees will shed additional light on their captivity, and their conduct while in Iranian hands. 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